Re: ARG-ST

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Stefan Mueller (Stefan.Mueller@dfki.de)
Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:16:35 +0200


Hi, I think that the sentences in Detmar's mail quoted from Hoehle are just one instance of a more general problem with the argument raising approach for German verbal complexes and passive. > > der Wein ausgegangen ist uns diesmal nicht > die Argumente ausgegangen sind/*ist uns diesmal nicht > The other cases are: (1) ? Den S"anger jodeln l"a"st der K"onig. (Oppenrieder, 1991, p.57) the singer (acc) yodel lets the king (nom) `The king lets the singer yodel.' Although such sentences are usually out as observed by Eisenberg (1989) who gives the examples in (2), the example in (1) with an intransitive verb seems quite acceptable. (2) Zigaretten rauchen sieht Helga ihn. * Ihn Zigaretten rauchen sieht Helga. The question now is: How does the singer receive accusative. In (1) it is the subject of the fronted intransitive. It therefore should have nominative. The case is assigned by the AcI verb 'lassen' despite of the fronting. As the singer is not attracted to 'lassen' it is not an argument of 'lassen' and it remains mysterious how case assignment works in this case. I think projecting the subject one step further does not help here. Another instance of the same problem is (3). (3) Von Grammatikern angef"uhrt werden auch F"alle mit dem Partizip intransitiver Verben (Askedal, 1984, p. 28) by grammarians given are also examples with the participle (of)intransitive verbs Again, if a subject to object raising analysis is assumed for passive (Kathol, 1994; Pollard, 1994), the von-PP is an argument of 'werden' not of 'angefuehrt'. So the question is: how do we explain, that the von-PP appears together with a verb that is not it's head in the position before the finite verb? (Usually it is assumed that German is V2, i.e. that 'von Grammatikern angefuehrt' has to be one constituent.) So all these sentences--the ones by Hoehle included--seem to be instances of the same problem and projecting the subject one step further is not the solution to this problem. You will find this discussion with some more details plus some arguments against treating the subjects of participles or ergatives as complements (as suggested by Baker (1994) and Pollard (1994)) in (Mueller, To Appear). Maybe the Hoehle manuscript has solutions to all of these problems. I am looking forward to see them, since for me this is one of the biggest problems in the grammar of German. Greetings Stefan P.S. In (Mueller, 1997) I used the ARG-S for case assignment. If you use CELRs you cannot assign case on the subcat list any longer since the subject may be in SLASH. So I did the argument attraction both on ARG-S and subcat and then assigned case on ARG-S in a way analoguos to the case assignment on subcat. But it can be said that this ARG-S is still a property of lexical entities since the ARG-S for case assigment is needed in verbal complexes only and they are lexical, somehow. Anyway, I do not believe that extraction is a lexical phenomenon (yes, I know ...). And I think that case assignment belongs to syntax. St. @article{Askedal84, author = {John Ole Askedal}, title = {{Grammatikalisierung und Auxiliarisierung im sogenannten "`{\em bekommen\/}/{\em kriegen\/}/{\em erhalten\/}-Passiv"' des Deutschen}}, journal = "Kopenhagener Beitr{\"a}ge zur germanistischen Linguistik", volume = 22, pages = {5--47}, year = 1984 } @InProceedings{ Baker94, address = "Chicago, Illinois", author = "Kathryn L. Baker", booktitle = "Papers from the 30th Regional Meeting of the Chicago Linguistic Society", title = "An Integrated Account of ``Modal Flip'' and Partial Verb Phrase Fronting in {G}erman", year = "1994" } @book{Eisenberg89, author = {Peter Eisenberg}, title = {Grundriss der deutschen Grammatik}, edition = {2.}, publisher = {Metzlersche Verlagsbuchhandlung}, address = {Stuttgart}, year = 1989 } @incollection{Kathol94, Author = {Andreas Kathol}, Editor = {John Nerbonne and Klaus Netter and Carl J. Pollard}, Booktitle = {German in Head-Driven Phrase Structure Grammar}, title = {Passives without Lexical Rules}, chapter = 7, pages = {237--272}, Publisher = {Center for the Study of Language and Information}, Series = {CSLI Lecture Notes}, Number = 46, Address = {Stanford}, YEAR = 1994 } @techreport{Mueller97d, author = {Stefan M{\"u}ller}, title = {Complement Extraction Lexical Rules and Argument Attraction}, note = {A slightly different version appeared in {\it Natural Language Processing and Speech Technology. Results of the 3rd KONVENS Conference, Bielefeld, October 1996\/}. http://www.dfki.de/~stefan/Pub/e_case_celr.html}}, type = {{Research Report}}, number = {{RR-97-08}}, institution = {Deutsches Forschungszentrum f\"ur K\"unstliche Intelligenz}, address = {Saar\-br\"ucken}, year = 1997 } @book{Mueller99, author = {Stefan M{\"u}ller}, title = {{Deutsche Syntax deklarativ. Head-Driven Phrase Structure Grammar f\"ur das Deutsche}}, publisher = {Max Niemeyer Verlag}, address = {T\"ubingen}, series = "Linguistische Arbeiten", note = {{http://www.dfki.de/\~stefan}/Pub/e_hpsg.html}, year = "To appear" } @book{Oppenrieder91, author = {Wilhelm Oppenrieder}, title = {{Von Subjekten, S\"atzen und Subjekts\"atzen}}, publisher = {Max Niemeyer Verlag}, address = {T\"ubingen}, series = {Linguisitische Arbeiten}, number = 241, year = 1991 } @incollection{Pollard94, Author = {Carl J. Pollard}, Editor = {John Nerbonne and Klaus Netter and Carl J. Pollard}, Booktitle = {German in Head-Driven Phrase Structure Grammar}, title = {Toward a Unified Account of Passive in {German}}, chapter = 8, pages = {273--296}, Publisher = {Center for the Study of Language and Information}, Series = {CSLI Lecture Notes}, Number = 46, Address = {Stanford}, YEAR = 1994 } -- FB Sprachtechnologie DFKI GmbH Tel.: (+49 - 681) 302 - 5295 Stuhlsatzenhausweg 3 Fax: (+49 - 681) 302 - 5338 D-66123 Saarbruecken http://www.dfki.de/~stefan/ http://www.dfki.de/~stefan/Babel/Interaktiv/Babajava/


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